The 24-year-old Arab-Israeli student who interrupted President Obamaâs speech in Jerusalem on Thursday explained what he said and why in an interview with The Lede on Friday.
The student, Rabbea Eid, said by telephone that he did not plan the outburst but was offended by Mr. Obamaâs remarks, which seemed to rule out the solution the political-science student favors: a single, binational state to be shared by Israelis and Palestinians:
I was listening to the speech of Obama and he said a lot of things that made me upset so I just stood up and shouted. He was talking about democracy and justice and at the same time he said he supports Israel as a Jewish country. So, from my perspective and that of a lot of people, Arab people, Palestinians who were in the building listening to the speech⦠the Arabs, the minority in Israel are also against a Jewish country because itâs not democratic country. Itâs against us, so how can Mr. Obama be democratic and in the same time support an ethnic country
So I stood up and I told him, âPresident Obama, did you come to make peace or to support Israel and the Israeli occupationâ Then I asked him about this thing, âHow can you be democratic and support a Jewish countryâ And I asked him also, âWho killed Rachel Corrieâ The last question was, âDid you see the apartheid wall when you came from Ramallahâ
And then the security guys came and took me out, the Israeli security guys, and they told me that Iâm arrested and they threatened me and they used, at first, a little bit of violence with me. But after that there was a journalist â" from Fox News, I think â" came out and followed meâ¦. She started taking my details and pictures, while I was stopped by the Israeli security guysâ¦. One of the security guys, I think the boss of them, told his team, âDeal with him easy. I donât want to make a big story now. There is media so just let him go. Then they walked me outside.
Footage of Mr. Eid after he was removed from the hall by security was broadcast by Israelâs Channel 2.
Mr. Eid, an activist with the Balad Party, which represents Arab citizens of Israel, also said, âI donât think Obama can solve the problem, because heâs as I see it, heâs part of the problem because he supports Israel and gives Israel weapons and money without saying they shouldnât be killing the Palestinian people.â
He added:
I believe if heâs from a real democratic party, he should support a country for all its citizens and end the occupation, not to support a Jewish country and to support the Israeli army. He didnât talk that much about the settlements. He talked about the violence from settlers but he didnât say very clearly that something against settlements is that they are built on occupied land. He didnât talk about the apartheid wall. And many things.
Most of his speech was to me, and to a lot of others, a Zionist speech. He talked about the historical Zionist story about the Jewish people, starting from 2,000 years ago till today and the right of the Jewish people to have their own country, but he didnât say that there are millions of refugees, Palestinian refugees that were expelled in 1948, just before 65 years ago.
To me, I believe in one state for two people â" one democratic state. There could be a special national thing for the Jewish or the Arab people, you know, but it could be one country. We need justice, you know. I actually donât care what the name of this state is, but what I care is for there to be justice for two peoples in the state and to end this conflict.
Before hanging up, Mr. Eid said, âit is important for us that the American people know what is happening here, and to know that the money from their taxes is going for the weapons for Israel and different places.â